May 22, 2008, 12:07 PM // 12:07
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: 668 the neighbor of the beast
Guild: TFK
Profession: A/
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UB and its lack of healing
I put this here instead of sardelac because I wanted to discuss not suggest. First let me say that I seldom pug, I dont like to play with people (other than guildies) because they have a tendancy to do stupid crap. Like agro everything and then blame the monk when we die. No to my point (sorta). I used UB to do Bear Club for Women. While it worked well enough, I noticed a problem with it. No, healing. I dont want some major healing ability, just enough to keep me going. I know the arguement of it being overpowered as it stands now. So heres my idea
Mothers Tongue
5 1 10
For next 5 secs all crit hits heal for 30 health
One reason I thought of this is Bears, in most myths were also healers,caregivers. Creatures of sacrifice. The Norse...Norn, seem to see them as great spirits of protection. If not a healing maybe a prot spirit kind of thing that converts damage.
thoughts?
~the rat~
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May 22, 2008, 12:16 PM // 12:16
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Canada
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Here's an idea, take a prot/heal monk.
Solo missions? You're using the wrong gimmick, try a real solo build.
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May 22, 2008, 12:18 PM // 12:18
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#3
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: england (currently located on the south coast)
Profession: R/
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NO NO NO NO NO NO - get the point?
ursan is ridiculously over-powered alrdy - that may be the ONLY good thing that ANET did with UB - NO SELF HEAL
gz ANET you got something 1/2 right *sarcastic claps*
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May 22, 2008, 12:20 PM // 12:20
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#4
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jul 2007
Guild: [IG]
Profession: R/
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Yes the most overpowered kill everything button in the game needs buffed.
For solo missions take a balanced build with some healing.
/not signed
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May 22, 2008, 12:21 PM // 12:21
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#5
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Dec 2005
Guild: Galactic President Superstar Mc [awsm]
Profession: E/
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I wonder how long this thread is going to live. Going to be flamed like hell because it IS a suggestion and it's a stupid idea.
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May 22, 2008, 12:21 PM // 12:21
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#6
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Sep 2007
Profession: Mo/
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omg lol am i reading this right???
You want to buff ursan,
I actually cant put in writing the abuse i want to give you, i wont even try lol
But on topic, for this to be put in, there would need to be a massive reduction in dmg to balance it, even though it will never happen, just speculating.
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May 22, 2008, 12:22 PM // 12:22
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#7
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Canada
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What Ursans Deserve
1/2 Cast Time, 10 Seconds Recharge
For 60 seconds, you are invincible. After 60 seconds, your account is deleted.
Want to see that...
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May 22, 2008, 12:24 PM // 12:24
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#8
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Mar 2007
Guild: The Eternal Champions
Profession: W/Mo
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We have monks for healing, hell...they don't even have to be real people, Dunk does the job great
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May 22, 2008, 12:26 PM // 12:26
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#9
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Holland
Guild: LoD
Profession: P/W
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I sure hope your trolling.... Ursan has already pretty destroyed most build creativity in the game, dont' make it more overpowered than it is please. If you really NEED healing with it, go dervish and put up avatar of dwayna before you put up UB.
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May 22, 2008, 12:29 PM // 12:29
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#10
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Apr 2008
Guild: Order of the Flameseekers [NL]
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk
What Ursans Deserve
1/2 Cast Time, 10 Seconds Recharge
For 60 seconds, you are invincible. After 60 seconds, your account is deleted.
Want to see that...
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/Signed
(PS: does the time 'till account deletion reset when you renew it )
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May 22, 2008, 12:30 PM // 12:30
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#11
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Canada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dylananimus
We have monks for healing, hell...they don't even have to be real people, Dunk does the job great
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QFT, I've found hero monks seem to do the job much better in PvE than humans do.
Quote:
Originally Posted by graverobber2
(PS: does the time 'till account deletion reset when you renew it )
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Nope, as soon as the 60 seconds run out you're logged out and the account is deleted
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May 22, 2008, 12:35 PM // 12:35
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#12
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: A little chalet outside Drok's
Guild: Natural Born Killaz
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No thank you to any kind of buff to ursan.
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May 22, 2008, 12:35 PM // 12:35
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#13
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Academy Page
Join Date: Jan 2007
Profession: R/Mo
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I am not terribly opposed to UB (but do agree that it is taking the need for creative bars out of the game) and disagree with this idea whole heartedly.
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May 22, 2008, 12:38 PM // 12:38
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#14
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: IN my pocket plane. Obviously!
Guild: Little Tom's Pocket Plane [THom]
Profession: Me/Mo
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While the idea is ridiculous (Why am I typing this already?), there is 1 point the OP has right : Bears typically have a protector/healer side.
But c'mon you're asking a buff to the single skill that the most people want the most nerf about. Ursan =/= solo.
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May 22, 2008, 12:38 PM // 12:38
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#15
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Canada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by legion_rat
aww arent you all cute. you can flame....oooo that hurt my feeling. As I mentioned I used it on the bear club for women, it worked, but not that well. As I also mentioned I do not pug so I do not ursan that often. Also, to the person who told me to die, You first.
I dont care if ursan is overpowered. will it matter when GW2 comes out? no. Anet will let GW1 slide into nothingness.
whats funny is no one, and I mean no one, discussed what the real problem was, just flamed. I suppose when someone deals with 12 yr olds they get those type of responses.
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Inexperienced troll is inexperienced.
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May 22, 2008, 12:39 PM // 12:39
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#16
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Nov 2006
Profession: A/N
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This is pathetic, there are no word that can describe how stupid this idea is.
Buffing ursan? Are you one of those narutards that think pve is hard?
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May 22, 2008, 12:40 PM // 12:40
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#17
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Forge Runner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by legion_rat
I suppose when someone deals with 12 yr olds they get those type of responses.
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Yep.
But do not worry, ANet decided PvE will be adjusted to the needs of casual players like you that want extra bang added to big red win buttons.
All others have to suffer the consequences of this stupidity.
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May 22, 2008, 12:43 PM // 12:43
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#18
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God of Spammers
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: in the middle of a burning cornfield...
Guild: Scars Meadows [SMS] (Officer)
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The real problem is people are not happy about the things that are already good. They always want something more, something to make them more powerful. UB, Raven, and Volfen blessing all lack heals. ANet probably did that for a reason, and were right in makinig them lack self-heals. It's not that hard to bring a prot monk or two to keep you alive. You don't lose out on the damage as you have 6 UB's running around hitting things constantly.
If you want them to be more like healers, maybe we should just make Ursan pure healing, since they are healers in myths.
Simple statement, no it does not need a self heal. Just because you think ANet will let GW1 slip into "nothingness" does not mean we should just make everything imba, or more so then it already is. Sorry but we do not need to make this game any easier then it already is.
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May 22, 2008, 12:43 PM // 12:43
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#19
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: IN my pocket plane. Obviously!
Guild: Little Tom's Pocket Plane [THom]
Profession: Me/Mo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by legion_rat
whats funny is no one, and I mean no one, discussed what the real problem was, just flamed.
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The thing is, Rat, that your are proposing a buff to an already overpowered and hated skill. You cannot expect anything else.
UB has 1 weekness (not counting the possibility of the player playing it) : Lack of healing. Thought when you think about it... The skill the OP propose is insignificant anyway, so they could add it for RP value and UB wouldn't get stronger.
EDIT : WOW this thread goes FAST!!!
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May 22, 2008, 12:49 PM // 12:49
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#20
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: 668 the neighbor of the beast
Guild: TFK
Profession: A/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSephir
This is pathetic, there are no word that can describe how stupid this idea is.
Buffing ursan? Are you one of those narutards that think pve is hard?
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no I am the one who couldnt come up with a hammer build for my sin. gee why the hell not??? I tried using a dagger build which worked great I kicked the shit out of the bear, but I am not fast enough or lag eats me, I cant switch to the gay hammer of the bear to finish the quest.
so I took a pet, put my points into crit, added UB and fought the freaking bear. Also I have tried UB twice, with pugs, both times I died. One, the monk took smiting skills (making him useless) the second things just went bad, but being able to self heal abit might have helped. I have yet to see that Ursan was overpowered as I have used it once for the quest, and now a total of 3 times, 2 to pug and once for my bear club quest. So sorry if my inexperience makes me a retard. I stated my reason and what brought it up. but it seems that certain asshats here, see a buff for ursan and get their manjina in a ruffle. I wasnt trolling, I simple thought it was a decent idea. I know from reading (you seem to be able to do that) that in most myths Bear has a healing aspect. Why wasnt it touched in GW? (ok i am trolling a bit now)
I was not trying to make a retarded request, it was as I stated at the beginning for discussion. which no one here really seems able to do. discuss. they are able to call people names, insult, and make asses of themselves.
~the rat~
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